Forum Mafia #13 - Town Wins

[201TinyTim]

Pretty pessimistic - if you are indeed the Tracker then there's a 50% chance we have a doctor who can protect you.

Lol completely forgot that the doctor has the protect ability, sweet maybe i will get a chance to do the thing then

[Rev.ps]

Something is off Hawk? Care to advance any further on that?

I always post my reasons, I've not been pointlessly posting frivolities to 'post without saying anything' so if that is more suspicious than the very occasional " Ouu stroopwafels" I don't think I'll be convincing you.

[Apoc.ps]

Apparently I was so busy playing Arkham City I never came on the forum yesterday



Some retroactive vote counts:



********************************
Vote Count as of Wed 29th @ 5pm

1 almightybob.....(vox)
1 Vox.................(almightybob)
1 TinyTim...........(sn0w)
0 Hawk
0 Gunmens
0 Sn0w
0 Rev

not voting.......(Gunmens, Rev, Tiny, Hawk, Seric)


********************************
Vote Count as of Thurs 30th @ 12am
3 TinyTim...........(sn0w, Rev, Seric)
1 almightybob.....(vox)
1 Vox.................(almightybob)
0 Hawk
0 Gunmens
0 Sn0w
0 Rev

not voting.......(Gunmens, Tiny, Hawk)

[Apoc.ps]

********************************
Vote Count as of Thurs 30th @ 6pm

1 almightybob........(vox)
1 Vox.....................(almightybob)
0 TinyTim
0 Hawk
0 Gunmens
0 Sn0w
0 Rev

6 players not voting.......(Gunmens, Rev, Tiny, Hawk, Sn0w, Seric, Rev)


[From top to bottom: Counts are ordered highest to lowest, and then oldest first]
[From left to right: Votes are shown in the order the votes were cast]

[201TinyTim]

********************************
Vote Count as of Thurs 30th @ Midnight
)

He Sees the future Dun Dun Duuuuuuuuuuun

[Apoc.ps]

Technically the minute of midnight is the first of the day

Although it does look odd when written like that
I've changed it to avoid confusion

[gunmens]

just sat an caught up deffo not wanting to risk it against tiny tim.

atm i have no idea who to vote for the first day is always the hardest for tells etc.

[Vox]

UNVOTE almightybob

I am still not sure why Almightybob is voting for me, although it might be due to me capitalising his name... I think i have been constructive and balanced in the discussions so far.

I too had a feeling about Rev. He doesn't really add anything to the discussion that hasn't been said before or that can be easily worked out i.e. the role breakdown if Tiny is roleblocker. It looks like he may be trying to look constructive without actually adding anything...

Pretty sure that this will open me up to attack from both these parties but we probably do need to provoke some action/reaction to find these scum!

[Rev.ps]

I assume you meant a role breakdown if tiny was tracker Vox? Or a wee Freudian slip?

I did a breakdown as they are generally useful and don't see how doing it is ever a bad thing unless people are hoping something slips under the radar.

If talking makes me a target so be it, I'm not going to avoid my only role for appeasement.

[Vox]

I assume you meant a role breakdown if tiny was tracker Vox? Or a wee Freudian slip?

I did a breakdown as they are generally useful and don't see how doing it is ever a bad thing unless people are hoping something slips under the radar.

If talking makes me a target so be it, I'm not going to avoid my only role for appeasement.

No, not a freudian slip. Merely a combination of unfamiliarity with the roles and a rush to post my thoughts so i don't get labeled as lying low again...

My thoughts so far are for Rev for the points in my previous post and for almightybob for his vote against me which seems unfounded; i am not sure how my comments are inconsistent.

[Rev.ps]

So I am a potential target for not adding anything to the discussion? If you have an unfamiliarity with roles, then is it not possible for others to benefit from a breakdown of possibilities? Ever since my first comment regarding your absence ( even giving a possible reason for it) you have targeted me, maybe its a case of early death on previous occasions but it seems a little too deliberate to me.

Currently I am suspicious of Vox, his targeting of me (call it self preservation if you want but lynch me if you want and we all lose out) seems deliberate from the get go without any real basis aside from claiming I am not adding anything to the discussion (bollocks I say). I am also still wary of Tiny, from posting after others saying the same thing on multiple occasions(including a vote) to saying ouuu the site wasn't working so I couldn't see posts but still managing to post himself to a role claim in a very self sacrificing manner then 'realizing' that a doctor could keep him safe and seeming perhaps overly yay pointing that out.

For now I will Vote: Vox but I would suggest that Bob removes his vote for Vox if his only reasoning is still his early absence.

[201TinyTim]

I am a truthful man Rev and everything i have ever said in mafia games is the truth. However despite your concern about me i do agree that Vox is acting highly suspicious although that might just be down to being early killed all the time

[Vox]

So let me break down the thought process behind my "suspicions" actions.

1. After joining the discussion late due to a tremendous hangover/business trip Monday-Thursday I find I have been targeted by almightybob for being AFK. Understandable.

2. In order to join the discussion, I vote for a member who has not been voted for yet (almightybob) to provoke a reaction/see if anyone defends or act suspiciously.

3. Tiny then (almost) immediately echos my post from a few hours earlier and votes for bob which comes across as very suspicious

4. This provokes votes for Tiny from Snow (reason given eventually), Rev (reason is not reading carefully previous posts/technical issues), Seric (hunch and panic-y tone in being one vote from a lynching)

5. As I see it Tiny then saw his imminent departure and claimed to be the tracker in order to derail the bandwagon (no counter claim)

6. I saw these votes being cast far too quickly without sufficiently good reasons and voiced my concern.

7. Votes were then withdrawn from Tiny

8. Bob still suspects me for unclear reasons

9. Hawk also has uneasy feelings about Rev

10. Rev votes for me due to me targeting him (?). I have not voted for him, just voiced my views on his actions (same as I am doing for Tiny, Bob etc.) I am not sure how he is seeing this as targeting...

[Rev.ps]

I too had a feeling about Rev. He doesn't really add anything to the discussion that hasn't been said before or that can be easily worked out i.e. the role breakdown if Tiny is roleblocker

I see the fact that you are ignoring all my contributions as pointless and not even contributions as targeting, seems a little bit more than general commenting and it makes me worry you are either deflecting or obfuscating. Knowing that you were killed so early in your past life makes me possibly read more into your comments that they warrant, but I cannot tell if it is overcompensation or just a desire to keep on trucking. I did say I don't want a bandwagon focused on you and would withhold my vote if one looked to be forming without other people actually giving reasons.

[201TinyTim]

Can i ask what Obfuscating means?

[almightybob.ps]

i am not sure how my comments are inconsistent.

Post 31 - I would like to hear everyones thoughts on this before i get lynched start throwing accusations around

Post 34 Looks to me like Almightybob is throwing votes around to deflect attention away from his beady mafia eyes...

VOTE Almightybob



Waiting a few hours during which only two other players post is not "waiting to hear everyones thoughts on this" IMO.

For now I will Vote: Vox but I would suggest that Bob removes his vote for Vox if his only reasoning is still his early absence.

As mentioned above, it is not. But on what basis do you vote for someone while simultaneously asking other people to remove their votes for the same person? If you think Vox is suspicious surely you want more votes on him, not fewer.

Can i ask what Obfuscating means?

Making something unclear or hiding the meaning.

[Apoc.ps]

********************************
Vote Count as of Fri 31st @ 6pm

2 Vox.....................(almightybob, Rev)
0 almightybob
0 TinyTim
0 Hawk
0 Gunmens
0 Sn0w
0 Rev

6 players not voting.......(Gunmens, Tiny, Hawk, Sn0w, Seric, Vox)


[From top to bottom: Counts are ordered highest to lowest, and then oldest first]
[From left to right: Votes are shown in the order the votes were cast]

[Rev.ps]

Yeah Bob that's fair enough. I meant it in so far I didn't want a bandwagon of votes for no reason, if people have reasons and suspicions of their own that's a different kettle of fish.

[Vox]

Sorry Apoc, I'm pretty sure I unvoted bob last night

[Vox]

Also, in response to almightybob post.

I waited a couple of hours in which nobody added anything constructive so thought I could get the ball rolling. You can see this by me unvoting you yesterday once my goal of provoking a reaction was achieved.

It looks like we are now back to square one except from 2 people voting (perhaps in tandem) for the most vocal of our group...