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    This is a petition to get Alan Turing depicted on the new 10 note designs: http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/31659
    There's also a facebook page, if you're into that sort of thing: https://www.facebook.com/TuringOnTheTenner

    Some of you will no doubt know why he is such an important figure but for those that don't I shall explain a little.

    Alan Turing was a leading codebreaker in WW2 and played a crucial role in deciphering the Enigma cipher, some actually go as far as saying he was a key factor in winning the war.
    He was also pretty much the founding father of computer science as it is, with his most famous paper being on Computational Intelligence and the Turing Test, which is a test designed to tell if a computer can pass for human.
    He fascinatingly managed to write a computer program for a computer that didn't exist (no computers powerful enough to run such a program existed at the time) to play chess, he played out the program himself, making moves using mathematical logic taking half an hour per move against one of his colleagues.
    He also made some pretty amazing discoveries in the field of Biology (some of which apply to Mathematics too), in which he researched the appearance of the Fibonacci sequence in plants.
    He has many other papers on mostly mathematics I think and obviously he was a very intelligent man, I don't think he gets enough recognition for the work he did considering the massive, and still ongoing, effect it had on the world.

    This next bit isn't necessarily relevant, but still a key part of his history I feel.
    He was also prosecuted for homosexuality by the British Government in 1952, he accepted chemical castration as punishment and he was not the same after. He killed himself in 1954 attributed to the stress brought on by the changes the castration brought about in him.
    Gordon Brown apologised publicly for this in 2009.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3agle View Post
    Alan Turing was a leading codebreaker in WW2 and played a crucial role in deciphering the Enigma cipher, some actually go as far as saying he was a key factor in winning the war.
    With this one I wouldn't agree, considering Polish commitment in breaking the code (and being first to succeed), unfortunately history often omits their merits. I don't say Turing had no important role, for he later supported Polish Cipher Bureau and continued the research, decrypting naval-Enigma, but I wouldn't give him such a key praise.

    Other than that, I agree it's a good idea to show some support for great Mathematicians and put a good example of them on a note So fair points.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AngryPotato View Post
    With this one I wouldn't agree, considering Polish commitment in breaking the code (and being first to succeed), unfortunately history often omits their merits. I don't say Turing had no important role, for he later supported Polish Cipher Bureau and continued the research, decrypting naval-Enigma, but I wouldn't give him such a key praise.

    Other than that, I agree it's a good idea to show some support for great Mathematicians and put a good example of them on a note So fair points.
    I personally don't attribute him to being a key figure to winning the war(I was just stating that some do), though I do attribute him to playing a crucial role in cryptography, in relation to British history at least.
    The Poles made the first incarnation of the Bombe (though they did hide it from the allies for 6 years), but Turing advanced this concept for British use.

    Besides this point, I think Turings greatest contributions were in the field of computing, which is more the reason I am promoting the petition so
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    Continuing with the science-y theme:

    "We do not wish to penalise the machine
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    a man for losing in a race against an aeroplane." -- A.M.Turing

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    He was also prosecuted for homosexuality by the British Government in 1952, he accepted chemical castration as punishment and he was not the same after. He killed himself in 1954 attributed to the stress brought on by the changes the castration brought about in him.
    Gordon Brown apologised publicly for this in 2009.
    Most importantly though, although Gordon Brown apologised personally, every British leader so far has refused to exonerate or rescind his conviction so, in the eyes of the law he is still guilty of a crime that no longer exists. That is shameful. I mean, come on - the Turing Test! Sometimes I'm embarrassed for my country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grom View Post
    Most importantly though, although Gordon Brown apologised personally, every British leader so far has refused to exonerate or rescind his conviction so, in the eyes of the law he is still guilty of a crime that no longer exists. That is shameful. I mean, come on - the Turing Test! Sometimes I'm embarrassed for my country.
    Yeah it is disgraceful, I can't begin to imagine how much further technology might have benefited from things he could have discovered had he not died so young.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grom View Post
    Most importantly though, although Gordon Brown apologised personally, every British leader so far has refused to exonerate or rescind his conviction so, in the eyes of the law he is still guilty of a crime that no longer exists. That is shameful. I mean, come on - the Turing Test! Sometimes I'm embarrassed for my country.
    If I recall correctly the House of Lords refused to pardon him because he was fairly convicted of something that was, at the time, illegal. There's a BBC article, I'll try and find it now.

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    Yeah, I've been watching the technology with interest, seems like a good direction. That said, didn't like this video, felt too much like marketing. I get that's what an idea needs when approaching populations and governments, but that doesn't mean I have to like it. (also, "never run out"? Screw that. Like yeah, '1gigabyte would be enough storage for anyone! Who could even use that much!'. Energy use increases fairly quickly (ok, not as quickly as computer technology), and I could foresee a scenario where energy demands have increased so much that thorium becomes hard to get efficiently as well.)
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    lol, this must be an April's Fool article, right?
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    So there you are, standing next to a famous football player, but then suddenly SUPRISE BOOGIE!
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